I have checked the following: magazine spring, checked ok lift gate, ok return spring, ok right and left slide supports looked ok All I know is that my grandfathers would unlock that way. All Rights Reserved. 28,589. n.c. ordnance (in stock) 3.5 (2) winchester model 12 double-ended forend wrench. Here is a whole series of references for model 12 problems and solutions. Make sure the gun is unloaded, use snap-caps and pull the trigger and work the gun like normal. The very things that made the Model 12 what it was — the machined, hand-fitted inner workings of the shotgun — made it too expensive to produce. I took my Winchester 1897 (takedown model) out trap shooting and cycled two shells fine, but the third failed to eject. Discussion in 'Shotguns' started by Firefall, Jun 15, 2007. The mighty Winchester Model 12 was initially available only in 20 gauge, with two and a half inch chamber, a 25 inch barrel and a six-round tubular magazine. A total of over 2,000,000 Model 12's were built during its long production run. Sticky intertia lock that should have been hosed out with WD40 that now sticks worse due to OP bashing the gun around not knowing how they function in my guess. American Suburbia was growing and men and boys now had leisure time. There are any number of good model 12 gunsmiths out there. The inside parts appear to have very little much wear and the barrels inside looked like a mirror. I have tried to train myself to tilt the sg to the left slightly during the chambering action. Here is a pretty good tutorial on disassembly / assembly of a model 12. The other solution is to have an action Job done by a qualified gunsmith that can correct the problem. This didn't bother me much at first, but now i think it needs to be fixed. It appears to have been hunted quite a bit but shot very little. Thanks for the diagram. I used both true solid brass base and brass clad steel base shells. I think it has something to do with that but I'm not sure what or how to know if it is broken. For the Model 12, it was in 1926/27 when the 20-ga and the 16-ga guns were changed to the 2-3/4" chamber length (from 2-1/2" and 2-9/16" respectively). If you have a Model 12 Heavy Duck Gun, they are highly valued collectables. Model '97 Winchester 12 ga. problem? After you fire a Model 12 you have to deliberately move the fore-end forward to the farthest point to unlock the mechanism. If you already have an account please login at the top of the page. Firefall Member. If you look in cascity WB forum ‘7rds in a magazine approved by WB committee’ thread I describe them. AR15.COM is the world’s largest firearm community and is a gathering place for firearm enthusiasts of all types. If this is your first visit, you will need to register before you are able to join in on a discussion. If you’re running into chambering issues, it’s likely other problems. They are very hard to source and expensive and you need the correct one for your shotgun. Sooner, Winchester used one basic receiver/trigger group model for that whole series to make a pump action, lever action, and semi auto. Baltimore, as I mentioned earlier, I haven’t seen a need to tilt the gun. Some of the cheap stuff has heads so thin they deform and lock the gun up. Even the late model 12's a large number were produced without a flag. Yes I am pressing the release button. ... love the way it fits, but it has giving me some problems along the way haha. I started tinkering with them a couple of years ago out of curiosity but they do work. I just aquired my 3rd Winchester 1300, this time in 20 gauge. A few weeks ago I purchased a Winchester Model 12. Thread Status: Not open for further replies. Aug 30, 2008. By the early 1960's hangfires had become virtually unheard of, so the first "Speed-Feed" pump was deemed not to need an inertia action lock. They designed a solution to correct the problem. The action is tight and the gun cycles very nice. I am confident that the issue is not user related as the problem happens to other shooters as well, nor is it a cleaning issue. I find that I don’t need the flag Goatneck refers to but if I had Model 12 issues, my gun would get shipped to him to get fixed. Winchester 1897 questions; Win fwt mdl 50; Need Help w/1200 20 Gauge; Winchester 1300 20 gauge; New game here.. What's wrong with this gun? i have a problem when it comes to firing KENT BB 31/2 1 9/16 ounce bullets. I field tested my Heavy Duck today with both 3" and 2-3/4" shells. But I don't pull back on the forearm. I don't recall doing anything special. Doesn’t seem to have any other issues. winchester model 12/1897 forend wrench. I shoot a model 1300. in 1928, 30 Inch Solid rib Barrel, Choked Full. Winchester 1300 cycling issue questions. Winchester 1400 serial # 136xxx. Hello guys, i am new to the forum and have a question. This is the reply I got back from shotgunworld. I just support it, recoil probably does result in pushing forward on the forearm. Winchester model 100 problems Thread starter shotgunwilly870; Start date Oct 18, 2013; ... #2/12 The only experience I have with the 100 is shooting one a few times . once and a while the bullets seem to jam when fired and stays jammed in without any way of pumping it out. Sounds like the action lock on yours is worn if it won't stay locked on a loaded/chambered round. More Info Out of Stock. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. Col. J Cooper. Very fast action. Jun 10, 2010 #1. cj65 Gold Member Gold Member. Winchester Model 12 Pump Shotgun 12 gauge, 30” Full Plain Barrel - 12 GA $479.00: 0 $479.00 11d 9h 42m 17032562. It's been a while since I shot mine. Winchester Model 12 loading problem? Hello, I have a '97 Winchester which I use to turkey hunt. A bit of an update. Winchester Model 12, 12 Gauge 3” Chamber Pump Shotgun - 12 GA $1,250.00: 0 $1,250.00 11d 12h 26m 17102916. Will extract shells fine. At home and with snap caps, the action and cycling works fine. They use a rotating bolthead, and when you fire them it's almost like the pump handle is powered back. I know you don't want to send it out - but send it out anyway. It is an older scattergun manufactured in the middle 1920's. Winchester model 12 super-speed 3 inch magnum has a 32 inch SOLID RIB FULL CHOKE - 12 GA $1,200.00: 0 $1,200.00 13d 12h 4m It takes some slamming or careful shaking of the shotgun to get it to cycle. Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters The solution to the problem would be find a carrier with the flag and install the part. I started a thread last week about a model 12 I acquired. What ammo? He mentioned he noticed the ring in the receiver had a bent piece of metal so he sanded it down. Ok, I got my model 12 out - this is my dads old 1950is full choke, 2-3/4" ribbed model 12. This may be my first post in this forum. Mine is a '57 model with solid rib. I bought a winchester sxp 31/2 28 inch gun. 3" full choke, of course. The only gamer thing that I do. The Winchester Model 12 was discontinued as a production gun in 1964, and the world tilted a little on its axis that day. It's really not a problem. I have owned a 1300 in 12 gauge for over 20 years now and is the only gun I shoot, therefore I am familiar with these guns. It does get old after a while, always trying to remember to do that. Okay another mini update on this. Winchester added a Flag to the carrier which did solve the problem. I had a chance to shoot it over the weekend and while it fired, the slide/bold would get lock shut hard. Yeah I seen some threads about the action slide. When it is locked, can you unlock it by moving the pump forward? Re: Winchester model 12 sticky slide « Reply #17 on: October 18, 2011, 12:33:29 am » My thought would be that it is a bit gummed up and probably just needs some love. Winchester designed the mod 12 carrier to lift the shell from the magazine to the chamber and then the bolt would drive the shell into the chamber. Winchester Model 12 20Ga Shortened Barrel; winchester model 12 cut away; Model 37 Winchester Redlettering; Model 120; Winchester model 12 problems. Love the smoothness and quickness of the action, love the way it fits, but it has giving me some problems along the way haha. Providing parts since 1950. All 2-3/4" and 3" loads have the same saami max pressure spec of 11,500 psi for 12 ga.  Could be heavy 3" loads run closer to max, I don't know if there is any data on that. brownells (in stock) 3.4 (7) replacement shotgun buttstocks. This was during the post-64 period when some marketing moron decided cheaper and faster was better. One thing that seems to be constant is that if the gun is going to start having major problems it will start with Winchester AA 2-3/4 dram ammunition. All chambered, fired, ejected and cycled fine. Copyright © 1996-2021 AR15.COM LLC. Announcements. I've had so many problems with Remington 1100's and Winchester AA's that I shy away from purchasing same when I need factory ammunition for the 1100.